Comments on: Hammers and SAFC: jaw jaw replaces war war

By: Jeremy Robson

Jeremy Robson — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:19:25 +0000

The episode raises a question about fitness to play. Ilunga would have been very cautious about contact with his jaw, but that had nothing to do with going to the ground like a giant redwood under the saw.

Petr Cech now routinely dons the black hat that he has now worn for several seasons since his fractured skull. If he needs this headgear because the previous injury has made his skull more susceptible to futher injury then surely he shouldn’t be playing. If it’s unnecessary then he should simply remove it.

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By: Roy

Roy — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:48:21 +0000

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1225483/Steve-Bruce-reignites-West-Ham-row-insisting-Herita-Ilunga-play-acted-Sunderlands-Kenwyne-Jones-sent-off.html?ITO=1490

I don’t want to drag this out but in Ilunga’s defence take a look at the pic in this article. Jones has a firm hand on his still mending broken jaw. I don’t and you don’t know for sure whether he was acting up. I’ve never seen him cheat before.

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By: salutsunderland

salutsunderland — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:51:35 +0000

See Neil Moxley’s reasonable comments under the Salut! Smiles heading on the left. Like me, like most SAFC fans as far as I can tell, he doesn’t for a second claim Kenwyne didn’t bring the red card on himself. That has never been the issue of this discussion.

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By: Tony

Tony — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:42:03 +0000

Yes the result would have, and should have, been the same, but a lot easier to take.

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By: Roy

Roy — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:11:17 +0000

It really doesn’t matter that Ilunga went down like a sack of spuds, Jones raised his arms at him. That is why he was sent off. If Ilunga stayed on his feet the result would be the same.

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By: PTR

PTR — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:35:32 +0000

How can anyone defend falling to the floor & having ice packs pressed against a non-existant injury?

A similar thing happened in Rugby recently, and the cheating player received a lengthy ban.

Yet another thing Football can learn from Rugby (and I’m no rugby fan, before anyone asks)

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By: Redan_White

Redan_White — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:00:11 +0000

Diversionary tactics talking about Cana would tend to indicate that you are ducking the ‘real issue’. By this I take it you don’t like having a player who “act’s” to help an opposition player get sent off?

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By: HammerBruce

HammerBruce — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:30:32 +0000

Whilst I certainly don’t condone Ilungas reaction I must say I am very disappointed that Steve Bruce saw the need to say what he did and Cana’s comments were very hypocritical considering he should have been shown a red before it even happened. Generally I thought the refereeing was poor but then having seen the other red cards on Match of the day and also watched the Arsenal Spurs game where there were 3 blatant bookins for Spurs players which the ref chose not to give made it more apparent how we need to now bring in the fourth official with TV Replays to back him up. I also felt that Kovac whilst a foul was not a booking it was obvious he didn’t see Bent and Malbranque seemed to go down like he had been poleaxed from a inocuous challenge for your first goal from the freekick but Mr Bruce didn’t see the need to mention that

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